Reference: posted by: gckier on 6/20 to Kirpal Singh Satsang Club; Message number 381
Neil,
I must be an old schooler too.
We knew Kirpal Singh as a man and master of tremendous dignity and presence.
Yet this childlike and complete love he had for Hazur could certainly seem weird to some.
To me it is very beautiful.I was most impressed by the telling of how he would simply walk away when his access to Hazur was refused, without protest or fuss.
There is so often misunderstanding of the concept of surrender to the Master, when so many think it is a giving up of something. It is really a very high stage, which few can understand, let alone practice.
What was it that allowed that equanimity?
Reference: posted by: nobledreamer message number 382
Incredibly well-put Neil. I've only been around 17 years and didn't always find it easy to adapt.
But there are things one can only learn through experience and when you are in contact with a lot of new seekers, you don't come away with the feeling that they are not sincere, that they don't want to learn, that they are not willing to find ways to uncover the mysteries of their inner selves, that they don't need ways to come to terms with their own pain. I am often rather in awe of some of them actually, as some are rather ingenious as to how they solve some aspects that I think some of us may not have had to deal with. Imagine having to basically be suspect of any teacher and any teaching originating anywhere outside of the major western religious systems. Caution is healthy and so very necessary. Trying to be vegetarian and off unhealthy substances, given the endless barrage of influence and pressure present in nearly every piece of TV, magazine, Internet, books........etc. ad nauseam.
I don't know, somehow, it seems there were some things that might have been easier about adapting 20 years ago than now........???
Ditto for your take on the passivity/management style - I have seen situations where (rightly or wrongly, who can tell), satsangis have acted in incredibly inappropriate ways and yet, there isn't any issue of loss of control on the part of the Master, nor lack of love, or compassion that was extended during those situations. ...perhaps there are many other ways that people rely upon to know the Master is the Master but for me, there was nothing more impressive or awe-inspiring than to see that demonstrated in a quiet and subtle manner.
How was it that Master Kirpal put it - ?
about being easy to find God but much harder to become a true human being...A man I once knew in my early years repeatedly said that Master sacrifices his Mission for his satsangis (allowing the imperfections at His own expense).
~ nobledreamer
Reference: posted by: WayOutWesley, Message number 384
I liked that story too....
I think that's what also draws me to Kirpals book on Baba Jaimal Singh.... My dad reads in it every night, and has for years.
The Saints and being at the feet of saints ...what more wonderful thing can there be?
I can remember how enraptured I was at the feet of my grandfather, who was not a saint by any stretch, but he was a mystic. Tales of the spirit awaken a fire in those that are spiritually 'tuned'. ....sitting in the presence of someone who experiences the spirit first hand, well the fire becomes a torch......
~ WayOutWesley
Reference: posted by: vejeestu, Message number 385
Just last night before meditation I read the entire section on Jaimal Singh's youth, search, and early days at the feet of Soami Ji.
It is an extremely beautiful piece.
Reference: posted by: WayOutWesley; Message number 386
It is one of the most inspiring spiritual journey's I have ever read....
How many of us have that drive and determination that Jaimal Singh had?
Very Very few are really after God like that.
I was gungho for so short a time ...its ridiculous ....quicker than an eyeblink ...Then I figured I was an immortal being and would have plenty of time to 'get busy' when I was through playing with the world. What an Idiot ...I was and am!
....Yet I can sit down and read the Brief life sketch of Baba Jaimal Singh and get comfort and inspiration to keep going and trying.
When I say inspiration ...I mean ...the kind that really makes you go sit down and meditate ...not just satisfies and pacifies the intellect.
What a wonderful book and what a wonderful life .....and what a wonderful telling of the story ...by such a wonderful soul.
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