Jeffrey C. Ely Aug 31 1992, 5:09 am show options Newsgroups: rec.games.chess From: j...@econ.Berkeley.EDU (Jeffrey C. Ely) - Find messages by this author Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:05:41 GMT Local: Mon, Aug 31 1992 1:05 pm Subject: Fischer match on ICS Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse sharr...@cms.tamu.edu (Stephen L Harrington): >I have been informed that the fischer match will be covered live >on Prodigy. If anyone has access to the Prodigy service, the rest >of us here on the internet will be eternally grateful if you >could/would glean the info from prodigy and cross-post. Supposedly >it is @ ~3pm Yugoslavian time, which makes it early morning for >those of us in the United States. Real-time would be the ideal, >but delayed slightly would still be better than nothing. Anyone >out there have prodigy???? Im sure there are many rec.games.chess.-philes who would be quite stoked to see this match in real time. There was an earlier suggestion to have the moves played out in real time on ICS. This could be accomplished by logging into ICS through two separate windows, one for Fischer and one for Spassky. There must be somebody out there with Prodigy who will be watching this match anyway. Is it possible to orchestrate this so that we could compensate a volunteer for his service. Here's a suggestion. Registered ICS users have their e-mail addresses on file. How about setting a small fee to use ICS during the match. Players who logged on during the match (and I guess it would be fair to first verify that they watched the match as opposed to just logged on and off-I assume this is possible) could be "billed." Of course there will be some free riders, but the problem could at least be minimized by preventing non-registered players from logging on during the match (I assume this is possible) abd by consistently nagging those who fail to pay with a barrage of e-mail. (players could be warned when logging into ICS at these times that they are expected to pay.) An even better system, if implementable, would be to have each potential user pledge via e-mail, prior to the match, to send a check to whomever after the match is over. Only useres who have made this pledge would be allowed to log on during match games. Under this system, players who commit themselves know in advance that if they fail to pay, they will be subject to e-mail terrorism. I bet there is enough interest in this match that the fee per individual would not have to be too high (less than the price of a movie) to generate sufficient incentive to supply the service. BTW I hear that the match will also be covered on USA Today Sports Network and Compuserve. Jeff Ely "He said the Sun's not yellow... Department of Economics It's Chicken!" UC Berkeley wagner Aug 31 1992, 6:19 am show options Newsgroups: rec.games.chess From: wag...@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu - Find messages by this author Date: 31 Aug 92 17:38:15 EDT Local: Mon, Aug 31 1992 2:38 pm Subject: Re: Fischer match on ICS Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse In article <9208312005.AA05...@econ.berkeley.edu>, j...@econ.Berkeley.EDU (Jeffrey C. Ely) writes: - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > sharr...@cms.tamu.edu (Stephen L Harrington): >>I have been informed that the fischer match will be covered live >>on Prodigy. If anyone has access to the Prodigy service, the rest >>of us here on the internet will be eternally grateful if you >>could/would glean the info from prodigy and cross-post. Supposedly >>it is @ ~3pm Yugoslavian time, which makes it early morning for >>those of us in the United States. Real-time would be the ideal, >>but delayed slightly would still be better than nothing. Anyone >>out there have prodigy???? > Im sure there are many rec.games.chess.-philes who would be quite stoked > to see this match in real time. There was an earlier suggestion to have the > moves played out in real time on ICS. This could be accomplished by logging > into ICS through two separate windows, one for Fischer and one for Spassky. > There must be somebody out there with Prodigy who will be watching this match > anyway. Is it possible to orchestrate this so that we could compensate a > volunteer for his service. > Here's a suggestion. Registered ICS users have their e-mail addresses > on file. How about setting a small fee to use ICS during the match. Players > who logged on during the match (and I guess it would be fair to first verify > that they watched the match as opposed to just logged on and off-I assume > this is possible) could be "billed." Of course there will be some free > riders, but the problem could at least be minimized by preventing > non-registered players from logging on during the match (I assume this is > possible) abd by consistently nagging those who fail to pay with a barrage > of e-mail. (players could be warned when logging into ICS at these times > that they are expected to pay.) > An even better system, if implementable, would be to have each potential > user pledge via e-mail, prior to the match, to send a check to whomever after > the match is over. Only useres who have made this pledge would be allowed > to log on during match games. Under this system, players who commit > themselves know in advance that if they fail to pay, they will be subject > to e-mail terrorism. > I bet there is enough interest in this match that the fee per individual > would not have to be too high (less than the price of a movie) to generate > sufficient incentive to supply the service. BTW I hear that the match will > also be covered on USA Today Sports Network and Compuserve. > Jeff Ely "He said the Sun's not yellow... > Department of Economics It's Chicken!" > UC Berkeley I don't mean to be rude, but do you realize that your quest for entertainment has consequences for people living in a nation torn by civil war? -Luke wag...@mps.ohio-state.EDU Steven L Harrington Aug 31 1992, 11:00 am show options Newsgroups: rec.games.chess From: sharr...@cs.tamu.edu (Steven L Harrington) - Find messages by this author Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:24:18 GMT Local: Mon, Aug 31 1992 7:24 pm Subject: Re: Fischer match on ICS Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse I don't mean to be rude, but do you realize that this has already been argued in the past month. The arguments are not convincing; see what I believe are the varied and sundry refutations in previous posts by myself and others. Certainly, I respect that others may disagree with me... Consequently, I shall not expect anyone to force you or others who oppose the match to watch it. Please allow those of us who are interested in it to pursue attempts to view the games. Furthermore, please don't be so naive or quixotic as to believe that watching the match and condoning any of the attrocities being perpetrated there (or anywhere else in the world) are synonymous. Thanks, Steve . Steven L Harrington Aug 31 1992, 11:12 am show options Newsgroups: rec.games.chess From: sharr...@cs.tamu.edu (Steven L Harrington) - Find messages by this author Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:35:43 GMT Local: Mon, Aug 31 1992 7:35 pm Subject: Re: Fischer match on ICS Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse Luke writes: [deletia about "immorality" of watching fischer match] --------------------------- I don't mean to be rude, but do you realize that this has already been argued in the past month. The arguments are not convincing; see what I believe are the varied and sundry refutations in previous posts by myself and others. Certainly, I respect that others may disagree with me... Consequently, I shall not expect anyone to force you or others who oppose the match to watch it. Please allow those of us who are interested in it to pursue attempts to view the games. Furthermore, please don't be so naive or quixotic as to believe that watching the match and condoning any of the attrocities being perpetrated there (or anywhere else in the world) are synonymous. Thanks, Steve . wagner Sep 1 1992, 1:34 am show options Newsgroups: rec.games.chess From: wag...@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu - Find messages by this author Date: 1 Sep 92 12:54:04 EDT Local: Tues, Sep 1 1992 9:54 am Subject: Re: Fischer match on ICS Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse In article <1992Sep1.023543.23...@tamsun.tamu.edu>, sharr...@cs.tamu.edu (Steven L Harrington) writes: > Certainly, I respect that others may disagree with me... > Consequently, I shall not expect anyone to force you or others > who oppose the match to watch it. Please allow those of us > who are interested in it to pursue attempts to view the > games. Furthermore, please don't be so naive or quixotic as to > believe that watching the match and condoning any of the attrocities > being perpetrated there (or anywhere else in the world) are > synonymous. Two points: i) Mr Ely's post which prompted my response was a solicitation for funds. ii) In financially supporting the match, one is supporting the Serbian government. As for the naivete of economic and cultural sanctions, I draw your attention to recent events in South Africa. To repeat, I was concerned with the solicitation for money. Whether or not one follows the match is of course a personal matter. -Luke Ralph I Haefner Sep 1 1992, 2:27 am show options Newsgroups: rec.games.chess From: haef...@IASTATE.EDU (Ralph I Haefner) - Find messages by this author Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:41:20 GMT Local: Tues, Sep 1 1992 10:41 am Subject: Re: Fischer match on ICS Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse In article <13572.2aa25...@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - wag...@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes: > In article <9208312005.AA05...@econ.berkeley.edu>, j...@econ.Berkeley.EDU (Jeffrey C. Ely) writes: > > sharr...@cms.tamu.edu (Stephen L Harrington): > >>I have been informed that the fischer match will be covered live > >>on Prodigy. If anyone has access to the Prodigy service, the rest > >>of us here on the internet will be eternally grateful if you > >>could/would glean the info from prodigy and cross-post. Supposedly > >>it is @ ~3pm Yugoslavian time, which makes it early morning for > >>those of us in the United States. Real-time would be the ideal, > >>but delayed slightly would still be better than nothing. Anyone > >>out there have prodigy???? > > Im sure there are many rec.games.chess.-philes who would be quite stoked > > to see this match in real time. There was an earlier suggestion to have the > > moves played out in real time on ICS. This could be accomplished by logging > > into ICS through two separate windows, one for Fischer and one for Spassky. > > There must be somebody out there with Prodigy who will be watching this match > > anyway. Is it possible to orchestrate this so that we could compensate a > > volunteer for his service. > > Here's a suggestion. Registered ICS users have their e-mail addresses > > on file. How about setting a small fee to use ICS during the match. Players > > who logged on during the match (and I guess it would be fair to first verify > > that they watched the match as opposed to just logged on and off-I assume > > this is possible) could be "billed." Of course there will be some free > > riders, but the problem could at least be minimized by preventing > > non-registered players from logging on during the match (I assume this is > > possible) abd by consistently nagging those who fail to pay with a barrage > > of e-mail. (players could be warned when logging into ICS at these times > > that they are expected to pay.) > > An even better system, if implementable, would be to have each potential > > user pledge via e-mail, prior to the match, to send a check to whomever after > > the match is over. Only useres who have made this pledge would be allowed > > to log on during match games. Under this system, players who commit > > themselves know in advance that if they fail to pay, they will be subject > > to e-mail terrorism. > > I bet there is enough interest in this match that the fee per individual > > would not have to be too high (less than the price of a movie) to generate > > sufficient incentive to supply the service. BTW I hear that the match will > > also be covered on USA Today Sports Network and Compuserve. > > Jeff Ely "He said the Sun's not yellow... > > Department of Economics It's Chicken!" > > UC Berkeley > I don't mean to be rude, but do you realize that your quest for > entertainment has consequences for people living in a nation torn by > civil war? No, it doesnt. If you think it will have any impact on what those nationalist idiots are doint to each other you need a clue real bad. -Ralph - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - > -Luke > wag...@mps.ohio-state.EDU William Moxley Sep 2 1992, 2:44 am show options Newsgroups: rec.games.chess From: m...@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley) - Find messages by this author Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 04:04:56 GMT Local: Tues, Sep 1 1992 9:04 pm Subject: The Fischer match on Prodigy (was Re: Fischer match on ICS) Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse After reading the post regarding prodigy covering the match, a friend and I logged on to Prodigy to see what they had in their announcements. I was surprised to find that the only mention of the game was last week, and that they haven't given any specific as to time or anything else. Now according to them, the matches start tommorrow (9/2/92) and as of 10PM they still haven't said anything more about this. Isn't that kind of flaky of prodigy? William Moxley m...@vpnet.chi.il.us