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From fredrick@well.com Thu Jun 1 22:49:00 1995 To: BobbieF103@aol.com, EDL%ATLANTIC@acgate.acus.org, NBFV09A@mail.prodigy.com, ahicks@prism.nmt.edu, stephen@spin.ho.att.com Subject: FAQ on lamps.
There have been 16 requests for the FAQ and I am trying to answer a few questions that some posed with this brief note. A couple of requestors wanted me to design their lighting setup. I am not an illumination engineer(that is what a lighting design engineer is called), my specialty was power electronics and since much of the time I was the only or one of two electronic engineers at the new products facility I had to be something of a universal expert and I got to know a lot about lamps. However we did have a lot of illumination engineers working for the company and they did the lighting design for customers (especially big customers). Both GE and Sylvania ( now Sylvania-Osram since GTE sold the Lighting Division to the German firm Osram) have big forces of field engineers in the various market areas around the country or globe. They have computer programs that they might use on your problems if you but ask. To rlwalker: Your idea of a single 1000 watt HID in the center of the basement is not going to work because it is impossible to design a reflector with such a low head-room to spread the light out with some degree of uniformity. You might try Hydrofarm's lights on a trolly that moves back and forth over a span of a few minutes to average out the illumination. To Tony Johns: It sounds as if you don't have enough light . (Etiolated plants- I had to look that up!) Incandescents are very inefficient light sources and the waste power goes into heat. Without getting very fancy with heat absorbing filters and dichroic reflectors I doubt you can get enough light to do the job without incinerating the plants. HID does make a little UV but compared to sunlight it is weak. A sheet of plain glass will absorb almost all of it. When we wanted UV for some reason we had to use special glass in the lamps to avoid absorbing it. The glass outer bulb of a regular HID lamp absorbs most of the UV from the arc tube. Conversely if the outer bulb is broken the bare lamp puts out dangerous amounts of UV. But not to worry - I had my cataracts removed last year and I can see better now with my implants than I ever could , even when I was young! Les: If the plants are ok why worry. The only way to remove the excess heat is to vent it. you don't need 80% humidity. Phals grow well at much less. With a light cart setup you are sort of stuck with fluorescents because of the form factor.. DISCHARGE LAMPS (more than you ever wanted to know about them.) By Fred Paget. The term Discharge Lamp describes an illumination device that creates light through an electrical discharge through a gaseous medium. Fluorescent lights are a low pressure discharge lamp. The fill gas is at a low pressure and consists of argon and mercury vapor. The amount of mercury is tiny and the light given off is largely in the ultra-violet. The inside of the glass tube is coated with a highly developed phosphor which converts the UV to visible light. The glass of the tube stops almost all of the remaining UV. A High Pressure Discharge lamp has a very small discharge tube generally made of quartz or alumina contained in an outer bulb of special glass. The inner tube is operated at a high enough current to heat it very hot. The fill gas and solid fill compounds exist in a gaseous plasma state while conducting the lamp current. They are called HID or High Intensity Discharge lamps. The term lamp is used in the lighting industry to describe the part most people call a light bulb. A fixture is the device that holds the lamp and in the case of HID lamps frequently contains a reflector and a ballast. Ballasts can be located remotely . Lamps requiring starters should have the starter in the fixture since very high voltages are involved. Ballasts for large HID lamps are heavy and produce voltages that can be lethal so they should be treated with respect and installed in a safe manner by qualified personnel There are a number of discharge lamps that are available and almost all have been used for plant growth. Every genus and maybe every species reacts a little differently under lights so no general type of light or spectral distribution is best. Fruiting plants like tomatoes seem to need more red. Roses are grown commercially under high pressure sodium lights. Orchids which are of such diverse parentage are a puzzle but experience is that they are not too fussy about special requirements. If experiments were done under controlled conditions it would probably be possible to optimize for each type. Your Phals might require a different regimen than your Catts or Paphs, etc. People I have talked to who sell the systems for hydroponics and orchids advise the metal halide lamps. These are available in several different spectral distributions, because the rare earth mixture used inside the arc tube is different. GE used a different fill than Sylvania. There is a new light bulb company that started about 4 years ago in this field (VENTURE) and some of their mixes are probably a little different too. Also phosphors are used on the inside surface of the outer bulb to give a redder light mixture. Since we don't know exactly what is optimum anyway it comes down to using what is available and cheapest. High intensity discharge (HID) lamps are made in a great number of different types. They all require a ballast to start and operate - it is usually a big heavy iron and wire component with associated AC capacitor and possibly a starter module. Some mercury lamps even use a tungsten filament built right into the lamp as a resistive ballast and will operate off an unballasted AC line. The first and simplest to make was the mercury arc lamp. The fill was an inert gas and a little mercury which vaporizes into the arc plasma very easily and is present in small amounts in many of the lamp types since it makes for easy starting. There is also a starter electrode in one end of the pure quartz arc tube as well as a main electrode. This simple lamp has a horrid blue violet color and a lot of the output is in the UV. So nowadays they all have some red phosphor on the inside of the bulb to correct the color a bit. These lamps are not the best for plant growth but they are the cheapest. Low pressure sodium lamps are the most efficient producer of light of all discharge lamps. They consist of a rather large lamp bulb with a u shaped arc tube of considerable length. They come in several wattages and are used mainly for street lighting. The light is monochromatic yellow. The sodium fill produces the two sodium "D" spectral lines and very little else. (There is some neon and other gas in the tube that make a tiny amount of other colors.) The lamp is operated rather like a fluorescent in that it has a low pressure discharge but there is no phosphor. I have never heard of these being used forplant growth. High pressure sodium lamps (HPS) are filled with a dose of straight sodium metal and an inert gas like argon plus mercury. Due to the difficulty of building in a starter electrode as well as a main electrode in one end of the arc tube (which must be made of alumina and niobium metal to resist the corrosive atmosphere inside) they are hard to start and require a starter that pulses the lamp with about 4,000 volts to initiate an arc. There have been some easy start lamps made that have Penning mixtures (rare gas mixtures containing neon) so that they may be started on mercury ballasts; however they are less efficient. After starting the mix heats up and the sodium vaporizes and the light output comes up to the familiar golden color. Because of the high pressure in the lamp arc tube the light is a continuous spectrum with a peak in the yellow. These lamps have a very high visual efficiency since the human eye peaks in the yellow. They also seem to make good plant growth lamps. Phillips is advertising one with enhanced blue output -probably a dose of some other metal as well as the sodium. HPS lamps have a longer life than Metal Halide HID lamps. In the order of 20,000 hours as compared to half that for the useful life of Metal Halide. When HPS lamps get too old their internal voltage drop gets higher and they get to the point where the ballast cannot put out enough voltage to sustain the arc. When they are not up to full operating temperature during the warm-up period the internal voltage drop is lower so that the result is that they start up and then as they warm up for a short time they seem to be OK, but they then go out. This cycling on and off is a sign you need to buy a new lamp. Metal halide lamps are another category and employ a fill of rare earth metal halide salts plus sodium and inert gas. Each company has their own proprietary mix. These lamps are also harder to start than the mercury lamps and usually require a different ballast with a higher voltage output and designed to meet some of the special conditions that occur during warm-up. They give a very nice white light and the flowers look pretty good under some of them. (If you examine the light through a diffraction grating spectral lines can be seen as well as a continuum. Depending on the mix the plants may or may not look good to the human eye.) Photographs taken under this light are usually a disaster and special filtration on the camera should be used if there is no escape. These lamps are available from about 40 watts up to several thousand watts. The bigger the lamp the higher the efficiency. Also the horizontal lamp position is more efficient and it was discovered that in this position the arc wants to bow upward at the middle so an "arch" lamp is available that has a bowed arc tube to accommodate the bowing and these have the highest efficiency of all, but must be operated in exactly the right position. HID lamps are three to six times as efficient as an ordinary fluorescent lamp. Lamps are sold in vertical base up or base down versions and either can be used horizontal. The reason for this is to keep the starter electrode at the top of the arc tube in a vertical lamp. Condensed fill chemicals gather at the bottom of the tube when it cools off and could short out the start electrode. The big advantage that the HID lamps have over fluorescent is their high wattage, high efficiency, and concentrated nearly point source of light which allows reflectors to be designed to put the light exactly where it is needed. Reflectors are available on the best fixtures that spread the light out uniformly over a wide area without a hot spot under the fixture. Fixture design is a complex art and science and a simple fold of reflective metal is not going to do it. Look for complex curves and peened surfaces on the reflector. HID lamps operate at high temperature so they typically take a minute or so to heat up. During this period the light output goes through all kinds of strange colors and changes constantly, depending on the fill used. If an operating HID lamp has its supply voltage interrupted for more than a fraction of a second the internal plasma will deionize and the lamp goes out and is incapable of conducting current . The hot fill gas would require perhaps as much as 50,000 volts to reestablish conduction, far more than the socket and wiring could stand. So we must wait until the lamp cools off enough so that the internal pressure drops to a point where the ballast voltage can start it again. This can take anywhere from one to ten minutes depending on a lot of variables. Then the lamp will restrike and start up again. This is why when they lose the lights at a night game where there is HID lighting, it takes so long to get them on again. Special bulbs were once designed in Germany with a metal cap on top so that a 50,000 volt starter could be employed to eliminate this so-called Hot Restrike Period but they did not become popular. Fluorescent lamps are made in many different types. The big runner in the factory is the cool white 40 watt 48 inch lamp (F40). These are made on automatic machines as big as a football field and sell at discount for less than a dollar. They make a pretty good plant growth lamp for the broad run of plants especially if they are supplemented with some tungsten illumination or warm white bulbs to bring up the red a little. As some of the contributors have said they work pretty well for orchids. The light is not very intense and it is advisable to get them as close to the plants as possible without burning the leaves. Gro-lux and its competitors were a specialty product to try to optimize the spectrum for a broad range of plants, There are two different Gro-lux types with different spectral outputs. Because they are not made in such great numbers as the F40 they cost a great deal more and they have a shorter useful life too. The phosphor starts to change after a year and the lamps should be replaced even though they are still burning. There exist two other types of fluorescent lamps - for commercial applications mainly. These are the HO (High output) and SHO (Super high output) types. They require different ballasts since they have higher lamp current than the F40. They are a lot brighter than the F40 but an analysis of cost I once made convinced me that you could use a larger number of F40 lamps to get the same level of light at lower cost. This is mainly because the F40 lamp is so much cheaper than the HO and SHO types. The HO is about twice as bright as the F40 and the SHO (or VHO as some call it) is about four times as bright, so you have to use four F40's to replace one if you have room. A word about ballasts for fluorescent lamps. The old fashioned magnetic ballast for 2 F40s is a commodity product selling for only 3 or 4 dollars in large quantity or about 15 dollars at retail. It has been hard to beat it using electronic technology. You can buy electronic ballasts that are more efficient and do a pretty good job of preserving lamp life. These are your more expensive types. There are also some cheap electronic ballasts that do not operate the lamps at full specified lamp current and/or give a much shorter lamp life. They are usually to be avoided. Often they are present in the loss leader "shop lights" sold in discount stores. If you don't mind changing lamps more often, then these ballasts do operate pretty cool which may be a factor in a flask house. Lamp life in fluorescent lamps is adversely influenced by the peak currents that occur during certain parts of the AC line cycle in most electronic ballasts. Light output is proportional to lamp current. So what is the best light source for orchids? I recommend a simple HID fixture using a 400 watt metal halide suspended about 3 feet above the plants. I have seen commercial products that use this setup and appear to be growing very well. Change your metal halide lamps at the end of rated life. They will sometimes keep burning for years but start to give a very poor light. Fred Paget 155 Elm Ave, Mill Valley, CA 94941 USA
Lighting Addition: How to tell your lighting level, with a SLR camera! WOW!
from: saul@dkrz.de
I have compiled the tables from the informations given by:
Mark A. Dimmitt <markdim@azstarnet.com> Robin Garrell <garrell@chem.ucla.edu> Hilary and Frank Stendal <gblastn@teleport.com>
In order to facilitate the use, I created the table which includes practically all the exposure time and f-stop range found in modern cameras. I only calculated it for one film speed as it is trivial to either set the film speed to 100 ASA/ISO or to correct the measured values by a constant factor.
I am glad that you want to use the table for the FAQs.
Cheers, Joachim Here is how to do the job:
Set the film speed of your camera to 100 ASA/ISO. Put a sheet of white paper in the place where you want to perform the measurement so that the paper gets the highest light intensitiy. Point your camera to the paper and get close enough to it so that it fills out all the finder view. You dont need to focuss your camera. Read the values that the light meter of your camera gives and transform them into the corresponding light intensity in foot candles according to the following table:
| f/1.4 f/2 f/2.8 f/4 f/5.6 f/8 f/11 f/16 f/22 -------+------------------------------------------------------ 1/4 | 0.5 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 125 1/8 | 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 125 250 1/15 | 2 4 8 16 32 64 125 250 500 1/30 | 4 8 16 32 64 125 250 500 1000 1/60 | 8 16 32 64 125 250 500 1000 2000 1/125 | 16 32 64 125 250 500 1000 2000 4000 1/250 | 32 64 125 250 500 1000 2000 4000 8000 1/500 | 64 125 250 500 1000 2000 4000 8000 16000 1/1000 | 125 250 500 1000 2000 4000 8000 16000 32000 1/2000 | 250 500 1000 2000 4000 8000 16000 32000 64000
If, for example, you get an exposure time of 1/125 sec and the f-stop is f/11 this would mean a light intensity of 1000 fc.
Happy light measuring!
kirby.a.smith@lmco.com Subject: [17469] Re: [17357] Lumens to Foot Candles
RADREX2 <RADREX2@aol.com> wrote:
I have a question regarding the conversion of lumens to footcandles. My light meter registers in lumens. I have my old Physics book that says 1 f.c. = 10.76 lumens but have read some literature lately that states they are equal. What is the hang up? Could it be the distance from the source is being factored in? Anyone who can shed some light, please do so. Steven in "wish I were shoveling sand, not snow" Pittsburgh radrex2@aol.com
A candela (cd) is a lumen per steradian. The illumination a foot away is a lumen per square foot or a footcandle (fc). The illumination a meter away is a lumen per square meter or a lux (lx). The later is less as the observer is farther from the candle. Thus a fc equals 10.764 lx. Note that a footcandle does not equal 10.76 lumens (lm).
FAQ component on light measurement
by kirby (kirby.a.smith@lmco.com) _______________________________________________
Light measurement and its relation to orchid growing can be complex. First, we need to clarify the units. There are Systeme Internationale (SI) units of measure and English units of measure (and other units irrelevant to this discussion). SI units are built upon the meter-kilogram-second and English units upon the foot-pound-second.
Second, we need to clarify the difference between radiometric quantities and photometric quantities. Photometric quantities relate to the spectral response of human vision. The unit of photometric luminous intensity is the candela. The candela emits one lumen per steradian (sr), a solid angle. Of interest to the orchid is the level of illuminance on its leaves. The English unit is foot-candle (fc), or lumen per square foot. The SI unit is lux, or lumen per square meter. One lux equals 0.0929 fc.
The radiometric equivalents of the above are radiant intensity in watts per steradian and irradiance in watts per square foot or BTU's per square foot in English units, and watts per square meter in SI units.
Measurements of illuminance and irradiance are made with light sensitive detectors that are calibrated to yield the desired result under specific conditions. For example, a spectrally uniform sensor would measure irradiance independent of the light's spectral distribution. Cameras and related illuminence meters use detectors which are not spectrally uniform. Unless specifically filtered to effect a flat response, or a human-vision-matching luminous response, the signal generated versus truth will vary depending upon the light's spectral distribution versus the detectors spectral response. A camera meter, for example, is usually calibrated such that it will cause daylight film to be properly exposed when subjected to light of the same spectral distribution as the sun. When subjected to tungsten light it may read incorectly.
What has all this to do with orchids? The orchids' spectral response (defined as the spectrum that optimizes growth) is not identical to the human eye's sensitivity function, and thus photometric units, whether SI or English, are not directly applicable. Neither are radiometric units, because the orchids' specral response is not uniform. Measurement of the photosynthetically active radiation (PAR) irradiance levels is desired. Call them ft-PARs, or PARems per square meter for SI affectionados. What we need is a detector that is filtered to match the orchids' spectral response. Then habitat measurements, greenhouse measurements, and artificial light measurements would all relate to the same scale.
This author has suspected for some time that the suggested light levels for various species are those which are reported by photographic light meter measurements in situ or in greenhouses that are successfully growing the plants. Such values are applicable to growing under daylight conditions. When growing under fluorescent, tungsten halogen, high pressure sodium, or metal halide lights, the reported fc values become less meaningful. First, few affordable meters will measure such lamps' illumination correctly, and second, as described above, the photometric illumination (fc) is not what is actually important to the orchids. For example, a low pressure sodium lamp can produce many lumens and thereby lux at some distance, but if the plant is not sensitive to the orange color, all that illuminance is for naught.
In my limited experience with growing under a metal halide lamp, the illuminance measured with my Minolta Flashmeter IV does roughly correspond to my visual impression of the illumination at different distances compared to that of the sun. That suggests the meter is providing an approximately true illuminance value. However, the plants tell a different story. Many act as if the _effective_ illumination is stronger. This may be due to the lamp's output being better matched to the plants' needs than to human visual response. The bottom line is that, for growing orchids, photometric measurement needs to be tempered by experience.
This culture sheet last modified: v1.2 4/12/98
-AJHicks Editor Wonk
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