My 1987 Porsche 928 S4, 5 speed - Sound System Page
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My first disappointment, and I do understand that this car was not build for audiophile's musical experience, was flatness of the sound. Once I have noticed that stock ITT speakers had cone frames were made out of plastic - that was it. So, once I was sure I could not live with that I started putting the concept together. Since I was not about to spend $4,000 to $6,000 for installation, in addition to $2,000 for the system, I had to try to undertake this task on my own.

This is the final result
This and linked pages show detail data on what system consists of and how it was built. It took me 2 years what would have taken Unique Whips (Speed Channel) two days. But I know I had more fun.
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following sections:
Other 928 Sound Systems:
Exhaustive List Of Car Audio Manufacturers:
With advise of Kirk Neal (of Ampmanaudio - unfortunately not in business any more), I have selected the following system components:
- CDT Audio Professional HD-642 3-Way System for the front (6.5" Mid-base, 4" Mid-range, 1" tweeter and 60dB "Phase Perfect" cross-over),
- CDT-6 (replaced by HD-6) 6.5" mid-base speakers are used for rear fill,
- Old Eclipse 56050 (2000 model - discontinued) 6 CD in-dash changer (GREAT SOUND BUT VERY UNRELIABLE - FAILED AFTER LESS THAN 2 YEARS - 1ST CD LASER FAILED, THEN REMOTE WOULD NOT TURN AMPS OFF - SCRAPPED AND REPLACED WITH TEMP JVC FOR TESTING OF HD RADIO - SEE BELOW):
Changer Mechanism
ECLIPSE COMMANDER Ready
ESN (ECLIPSE Security Network)
Equalizer/DSP Sound Processor Control (optional)
6 in-dash CD Changer with Daisy Chain linking
8-times over sampling digital filter & dual 1-bit D/A converter
CD Text-Ready
Integrated Optics Pick-Up Unit
Digital Servo System (DSS)
Enhanced error-correction capability
The ECLIPSE Memory Buffer
Highly Balanced Oil Damper
High Quality Film Capacitor
ECLIPSE STARTUNER IV
24 Station Presets (18FM/6AM) & Preset Scan
High-Voltage (5V) & Low-Impedance (55 Ohms) Output
ASM (Auto Station Memory)
Free-Flow Signal Circuit
Copper-Shielded Chassis
Audiophile Components
Independent Bass/Mid/Treble Memory for Each Source
3 Pairs of RCA Pre-Amp Outputs
Non-Fading RCA Pre-Out Terminals for Subwoofer
NOB (No Ordinary Button) Rotary Volume Encoder
High-Visibility VF Display
ECLIPSE LAN Advanced Data Link System

Remote
New HU: JVC HDR-1 - I selected this unit only as a temporary replacement head unit (HU) to test HD radio capability. It costs less than Fujitsu Ten Service Department asks for opening Eclipse's box ($160 minimum charge), and the "big three" of head units did not have suitable products in 2006:
Kenwood high end units are closest to what I was looking for (such as Kenwood Excelon KDC-X990: 5 V level outputs, G level accelerometers and HP measuring capacity (car weight can be entered into the unit!!)) with the best technical support (all e-mails are answered exhaustively!!). But, even though HD is multicasting capable, separate tuner must be installed. key problem - NO treble/bass controls at the knob available (such as on lower end KDC-X890 units), which makes any sound adjustments while driving impractical (5 or 7 steps operation to change setting via EQ),
Alpine units output level is limited to 4 V, vs. 5V as I have used in my system and is used in most of Eclipse and Kenwood units, and only 2007 models have HD tuners with multicasting feature, and finally
Eclipse units sound great as my original unit did, but are unreliable (infamous INFO3 error code does not mean that the head is dirty - as tech support would make you believe - but that the laser head is out of alignment which could be fixed for minimum of $160), HD has no multicasting capability, the high end units are extremely over priced, and tech support is clueless and never replies to calls or e-mails (unlike Kenwood).

Power Output: 200W Max. (50W X 4),20X 4 (RMS)
Built-In HD Radio Tuner with Multi-Cast Capability
Ready For I-pod *
Sat Radio Ready
MP3/WMA Compatible with ID3/WMA Tag
CD/CD-R/CD-RW Compatible
DiAS Digital Tuner
Digital 7-Band iEQ
Gold-Plated Front and Rear Line Ouput Terminals
Gold Plated Subwoofer Output Terminals with Level/Frequency
Control Rotary Encoder Multi-Control
2.5 V output level for front and rear; 2.0 V for subwoofer
Wireless Remote Control
* Using KD-PD100 I-pod Adapter

Remote
Unfortunately, this is $160 unit vs. over $800 Eclipse for a reason:
Subwoofer control range is limited (8 steps vs. 20 of Eclipse),
Illumination colors are not selectable (as in newest Eclipse designs and some of Kenwood's),
No treble/bass controls at main knob (this is the same problem with very high end Kenwood units) - one has to use EQ to change those frequencies (4 step operation - not doable while driving),
2.5 V output level, vs. 5 V of Eclipse, makes this unit more susceptible to an alternator noise,
Key problem: HD radio is great ONLY when unit locks on to HD signal - which is hardly ever. The technology as is - is not capable of maintaining HD signal within the FM signal range (HD signal is superimposed on FM waves and decoded by HD tuner). Refer to this blog for latest on this troubled design.
Conclusions:
HD idea is great, but it does not work reliably. HD unit has 20-20,000 Hz frequency response and is superior to 40-15,000 Hz range of conventional FM broadcast. When unit locks on HD signal, I can hear clear frequency range expansion on both ends. Base becomes deeper and there is not static noise.
Multicasting stations are great. On the same FM setting, one can select two or more alternate broadcasts! Again, depending on station transmitter proximity, 20 - 30 seconds after tuning in, for stations located 20 miles away in clear no obstruction path, ,those secondary broadcasts will typically drop off completely - silence. Only on primary broadcasts, units reverts to FM when HD signal is lost.
In present state of technology it is useless as supported by references above blog and my experience.
Only when transmission/tuner design changes will be made, HD would prove to be superior way to listen to a free car radio, however to be fully appreciated it must be listened to high end sound system.
If HD is not your thing, then Kenwood (5 V) ,or Alpine (4 V) should be great choices. If one plans to use the head unit for no longer than Eclipse's warranty period - then Eclipse may be great choice as well, but it is more pricy that equivalent Kenwood and Alpine.
If you want no mechanical rotating parts for greater reliability - that Alpine has new iDA-X001 unit for you!
If You want a subscription service and do not mind drilling hole in the roof for external antenna - than clearly Satellite Radio is for you. I want to have clean looking roof, that is why I am reluctant to get it. Also, paying extra $10/moths does not appeal to me too much.
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Specifications |
0.4kW |
0.6kW |
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Maximum Power |
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Power into 1 Ohm |
365 W x 2 |
440 W x 2 |
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Power into 2 Ohms |
200 W x 2 | 200 x 2 |
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RMS Power into 4 Ohms |
70 W x2 | 95 W x2 |
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RMS power in Tri Mode |
70 x 2 + 140 W |
95 x 2 + 180 W |
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Distortion at nominal power |
0.08% THD | 0.08% THD |
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Signal to noise ratio |
98 dB unwtd. | 96 dB unwtd. |
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Low pass cross-over |
40-180 Hz, 24dB/oct. | 40-180 Hz, 24dB/oct. |
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Frequency range |
12Hz - 20 kHz (-1dB) | 12Hz - 20 kHz (-1dB) |
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Input sensitivity |
0.1 - 5 V | 0.1 - 5 V |
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Dimensions |
150 x 300 x 53 mm | 150 x 300 x 53 mm |
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Weight |
2.4 kG | 2.5 kG |
ESX Q 2751 subwoofer monoblock amplifier:
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Specifications |
Q2751 |
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Rated Power |
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Power into 2 Ohm |
450 W |
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Power into 4 Ohms |
274 W |
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Distortion at nominal power |
0.05% THD |
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High pass cross-over (subsonic) |
7 - 42 Hz, 24 dB/oct. |
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Low pass cross-over |
38 -195 Hz, 24dB/oct. |
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Frequency range |
7 Hz - 200 Hz (-6dB) |
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Input sensitivity |
9 V |
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Damping factor @ 20 Hz |
500 |
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Bass boost (variable) |
0 to + 18 dB/Fo 43 Hz |
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Phase response |
Lagging 10° @ 20 k Hz |
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High pass cross-over (line out) |
7 - 42 Hz, 24 dB/oct. |
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Dimensions |
232 x 260 x 73 mm |


Part Numbers for all Stinger interconnects/blocks/cables Part Numbers are shown in the links shown above and in the System schematic diagram