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Professor Newcomb's Cosmological Argument |
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“Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could. . .” Rogers & Hammerstein |
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Beat this:The argument below uses deductive logic. Modern science uses inductive
logic which only provides a probability of something being
true. The more tests that are done successfully increase the probability
but cannot prove something absolutely, therefore you are always faced with
what is called an inductive leap of faith. Deductive logic can prove a point if the rules of logic are followed. It is
the only way to know something is certain. Using this in an arguement with another professor in a public forum, the only answer I recieved was, and I quote: "People like you will ruin this country." The country was tagged because this argument was followed by arguments from the Declaration of Independence about where our rights come from and the idea that God is the creator of man. Quite a come-back hey? Another Cosmological Argument for the Existence of God 1) Some things exist. Argument for the God of the Bible being this God 1) There can be only one uncaused first cause being called God. Argument for God being Personal 1) The Bible teaches that God has personal characteristics such as
anger (Deut. 1:37, 4:21), jealousy (Ex. 34:14), he is kind (II Sam 2:6),
and loving (I Jn 4:8, 16), (I Cor. 13) etc.
The real question here, since we are using Inductive Logic, and therefore must predict the probability that an event occurred is: What is the probability that life could have arisen spontaneously from non living matter? Let's look at some of the things that lower the probability: Intelligent humans have managed to cause several to appear in test vials without organic components, however, these were exceptionally simple compounds using ammonia and carbon. It has never been shown that any of the others could arise spontaneously. Also, in the lab, half of those that were made were right handed and half left. All those found in living organisms are left handed. Also, no organism has just one protein necessary for life. All organisms require a large number of different proteins. Let’s say that number is small and is only 10 (more likely 16 to 20 for virons, etc). This brings the probability to 1 x 102000 Keep in mind, even if we find out that amino acids do form spontaneously, this is only one small step in the necessary equation. We still need to prove that they did form spontaneously and that they then self organized without any of the left handed molecules (of which 50% of those that form are) and that they then came together in more complicated forms until all the required molecules accumulated in one place (in an area that is 22,000,000,000 light years in diameter) at one time and they spontaneously formed into the appropriate systems so that a self replicating system could be established, and, that it did replicated, and, then that it deviated from that form into a different form (against the law of biogenesis) etc. etc. To create a self replicating system you would need at least 20 to 40 proteins each containing 70 to 600 amino acids and each containing about 1900 nucleotides pairs to make it reproduce, and then three types of RNA each with about 1400 nucleotides to have a simple self replicating system. Now you have to get that system not only to self replicate but to replicate a different system and have enough variations to allow one out of 20,000,000 or so actually survive, and then pass on the genetic error that is somehow beneficial to its offspring. The magic dust that is sprinkled on this idea is called by evolutionists “natural selection” or more basically, survival of the fittest.” Keep in mind that this is a process of elimination or reduction, not one of increasing complexity. It eliminates potential genetic variations from duplicating and increases the odds against successful evolution. It is more rational to believe a computer, which is intelligently designed can rewrite this paper by itself and crank out intelligent discussions of different subjects than to believe that random chance started with uncoded information and output the highest code ever developed. (See Simple Cell below). A Cell Membrane (a moderately complicated system produced only by living things, but required for life.) A Cytoskeleton (a reasonably complicated systems produced only by living things.) Various Endocytic vesicles (extremely complicated system requiring living things to produce them and required for life.) Various Exocytic vesicles (extremely complicated systems requiring living things to produce them, and required for life.)) Numerous Mitochondria (extremely complicated system requiring living things to produce them) Numerous smooth and rough Endoplastic reticulum (also extremely complicated proteins) DNA (where the required environment for the formation of the sugars would prevent the formation of the nucleotides.) RNA (Same problem as with DNA) A centriole to help it divide. Remember then that spontaneous life from non-life requires all of these. One scientists calculated the probability that life arose spontaneously from non life as 1x10200,000. Do you play the lottery? The chance of one in 10,000,000 (a favorable change for most lotteries) is expressed thusly: 1x107 If you broke every atom down to the smallest known particles, the entire universe is made up of approximately 1x1070 particles! In fact, if the chance for any event happening is greater than 1x1050 then it is considered impossible statistically and if it is as low as 1x1012 it is close enough to consider it practically impossible (1 chance in 1 trillion). "Practically" in this sense means it really can't happen even though mathematically there is a chance. In short the probability is the same as labeling one electron and then placing it in a universe that is 2,857 of our current universes and then picking that electron out of the universe the first time, blindfolded! The fallacy that is most used by the evolutionists is called the “post hoc” fallacy. Correctly, post hoc ergo propter hoc, or, after this, therefore because of this. That is, since there is no God, and life exists, we must have evolved, so given enough time anything will have a chance of occurrence. But probability does not change with time. In fact, the probability decreases if there are admixtures of chemicals, which there are in the real universe. 1) There is virtually no evidence of this soup. 2) It has never been shown that a soup like this described can even be formed by intelligent beings, to say nothing about random chance. The idea of this soup came from the required conditions in vitro for producing a few simple amino acids. Most amino acids have never been synthesized thusly neither have any of the required nucleotides and nucleosides 3) It has been shown that this soup could not form both nucleotides and sugars at the same time. The necessary conditions for sugars to form would preclude the formation of the nucleotides. No person (intelligent life form) has been able to create conditions for the formation of both, yet it happened by accident? If this soup is possible, why can't intelligent life produce it? 4) If this soup did happen where is the residue of it. There should be some left somewhere. In a cavern, trapped in a thickened form in pockets of rock, etc. But there is none. If the soup contained any amount of useless ions (caused by various salts dissolving) these salts would take up all possible bonding sites and prevent further reactions, yet this soup is supposed to have existed in salt water. No one can explain or duplicate the environment where this could have happened |
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