August 17, 2005
I. Book/Media Discussion – 6:00 – 6:10
o Teach Yourself Philosophy of Mind, Mel Thomas
A very brief introduction
to the philosophy of mind but it manages to capture the key problems
and major solutions proposed over the years.
o The 100 Essential Thinkers, Philip Stokes
A picture and one page summary
of the great philosophers.
o A New Stoicism,
Nicely frames Stoicism into a modern
context.
o Meditations, Marcus
Aurelius
Journal of the philosopher king, Marcus Aurelius. Perhaps
the only emperor who did not allow absolute power to corrupt himself.
o Enchiridion, Epictetus
A brief handbook on Stoicism by the philosopher
slave of the ancient world.
Attendees recommended the following books:
o Sophie’s World, Jostein Gaarder
A fictional story that covers the history
of philosophy.
o Capitalism
and Progress, Bob Goudzwaard
Recommended as giving valuable insights
on capitalism.
II. Discussion: Should we just do whatever comes natural or should we strive
to be better? 6:10 – 6:30 PM
- Conflict, you fight with yourself.
- Nature vs. Nurture.
- You can change/reform -> use role models.
- This is the wrong question, it does not make sense.
- Get where you want to be by changing yourself.
- Desire vs. Morality
- “Sickness Unto Death”, Soren Kierkegaard
§ Despair / Unwilling to develop
- How do you know when you’ve found yourself?
- How do we know that our true nature is what is good for society?
- Are people really all that different after all?
- Discussion of setting standards for society, i.e. laws, versus just
letting people do whatever they want. The point at which a person’s
actions impact other people seemed to be at the crux of the matter.
III. Introduction – Theme is the Philosophy of Mind Part II 6:30 – 7:00 PM
Definition: It’s all about minds and
related questions. What is consciousness? Can computers
ever think? What is a person’s identity?
From Epicureanism
to Behavioralism
Epicureanism
Stoicism– Epicureanism with a Sense of Duty and Honor.
Behavioralism
Friedrich Nietzsche, “Psychologist
Philosopher”
Existentialism
The Psychology of Capitalism
IV. Open Discussion Question “Do we have free will?” 7:00
– 7:30
- Overwhelmingly the opinion seemed to be “yes” but
- Physical actions seem to point to free will, i.e. I chose to raise
my arm.
- Ayn
Rand says yes, we are “conscious beings”
- Are animals conscious? Do they have free will?
- It comes down to a theological question. If you believe in God,
you tend to move towards free will and if not, you tend to move towards
determinism.
- Causal interactions are often out of our control but they impact what
we do. For example, I can be hit by a car which limits my further
choices. Therefore, life seems to be partly free will and partly out
of our control.
- You have to just take a leap, just have at it. We cannot prove
free will but we need to just accept we have it and act on this.
- Will versus free action? What if you are not free to carry out your
will?