Descendants of Samuel Mansker

 

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Descendants of John Mansker

 

 

Generation No. 1

 

1.  JOHN2 MANSKER  (LUDWIG1) was born Abt. 1746 in Germany (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic."), and died November 1821 in Lancaster Co., PA (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").  He married ANNA Abt. 1763 in PA (Source: Dennis Mansker, The Mansker Chronicles, "Electronic.").  She was born Abt. 1747 (Source: Me, Guess.).

       

Children of JOHN MANSKER and ANNA are:

2.                i.    JOHN3 MANSKER, b. 1765, PA; d. December 1813, Randolph Co., IL.

3.               ii.    JAMES MANSKER, b. Abt. 1772, Lancaster Co., PA; d. Abt. 1830.

 

 

Generation No. 2

 

2.  JOHN3 MANSKER (JOHN2, LUDWIG1) was born 1765 in PA (Source: Dennis Mansker, The Mansker Chronicles, "Electronic."), and died December 1813 in Randolph Co., IL (Source: Dennis Mansker, The Mansker Chronicles, "Electronic.").  He married MARGARET ROBINSON Aft. 15 May 1792 in Jefferson Co., KY (Source: Dennis Mansker, The Mansker Chronicles, "Electronic."), daughter of WILLIAM ROBINSON.  She was born Abt. 1770 (Source: Me, Guess.), and died Abt. 1815 in IL (Source: Dennis Mansker, The Mansker Chronicles, "Electronic.").

 

Notes for JOHN MANSKER:

JOHN MANSKER

and the Frontier Wars

 

John Mansker was born circa 1765 in Pennsylvania and died Dec 1813 in Randolph Co, Illinois. He was the son of John Minsker and therefore a grandson of Ludwig Mäintzger.

 

It isn't known exactly when John Mansker left Pennsylvania, but he appears to have lived a very colorful and exciting life on the new American frontier. Although the Treaty of Paris in 1783 marked the official end of the American Revolution, the concept of peace was unknown on the frontier. American settlers moving past the Appalachians came up against Native American tribes who were a little more than reluctant to simply step out of the way. Hostilities were inevitable, and skirmishes, battles and wars were an almost daily part of life between 1783 and 1789, when a new "peace" treaty was finally signed between the new nation and the warring tribes.

 

The Native Americans were supported by both the British and the Spanish, both of whom had profound territorial and economic interests in keeping the settlers on the east side of the Appalachian Mountains. It was, of course, a case of "too-little, too-late". By the time the Treaty of Paris was signed, there were already more than 50,000 settlers who had moved west of the mountains.

 

Naturally all of these expansionists, meeting with resistance from the Native Americans who already lived there, wanted protection from the new government. Unfortunately for them, however, congress had basically dissolved the national army after the war, with the idea that state and territorial militia organizations would be sufficient to protect the populace. A national army of 840 men was all that was left, and it was woefully inadequate.

 

Congress, bending to the "will of the people" increased the size of the standing army by 25% to deal with the increasing skirmishes along the new borders. Although the army did attempt to enforce an official policy of removing settlers from Native American lands, the raids continued and more settlers were killed.

 

When two expeditions were defeated on the frontier, the army was increased yet again in order to meet the challenges of the Native Americans. In addition, militia units were called into service to fight alongside the army. By October 1791, General Arthur St. Clair was leading another expeditionary force from Fort Washington (Cincinnatti, Ohio) to what is present-day Fort Wayne, Indiana, where he was ambushed by a superior Native American force. In the attack he lost 890 men, 30 women and an unknown amount of supplies and provisions.

 

John Mansker was one of the members of the militia that accompanied St. Clair. John was wounded in the battle, and somehow managed to make his way several hundred miles to the south, to Mansker Station,Tennessee and the home of his uncle, Kasper Mansker, where he appears to have spent the winter recuperating.

 

By May 1792, he apparently had recovered enough to be married: In Jefferson County, Kentucky; on the 15th of May, a bond was posted for the marriage of John "Mansco" and Margaret (Peggy) Robinson, daughter of William Robinson.

 

By the summer of 1793 John was in the Kentucky militia, where he is listed as a private on the muster roll of a "Company of Volunteers, Kentucky Militia, under the Command of Captain Robert Floyd, in the service of the United States, Adair's Regiment, Major General Charles Scott's Command". He was mustered in on 23 September 1793

 

John was also a member of "Flinn's Company of spies", and a muster roll of Major William Price's Battalion, Mounted Volunteers, Captain John Arnold's Company, dated June 13 to October 26, 1794, lists a Corporal John "Manscow", joined from Floyd's Company, and that he lost his horse on October 19. Unfortunately for posterity, we don't know exactly how his horse was "lost".

 

Beginning in July 1824, Samuel Mansker , the oldest son of John Mansker, starting writing in a ledger book the beginning of his family history:

 

            "John Mansker, my father, was born about the year 1765. He came through Pennsylvania into Kentucky. He was a Captain in the Spy Company under St. Clair and Wayne in the French/Indian War [sic], and served as a drummer boy in the Revolutionary War. He received seven wounds in St. Clair's defeat by the Indians, and saved himself by a miracle from the dreadful carnage.

 

             "When the two companies moved to Tennessee, John was sent to his uncle, Kasper Mansker, a wealthy and prominent citizen of the State of Tennessee, who lived on Mansker Creek near Goodlettsville, to recuperate from his wounds. While he was away from the fighting, he met and married a sixteen-year-old girl by the name of Margaret (Peggy) Robinson [Roberson] who was born about 1771. The next year he was sufficiently recovered to join General [Mad Anthony] Wayne in his action against the savages from which he returned safely."

 

Until 1801, John and Margaret appear to have lived near Beargrass Creek, at the head of the falls of the Ohio, in the vicinity of present-day Louisville, Kentucky.

 

In 1850, Samuel continued his father's history:

 

            "My father moved his family in 1801 and settled in what is now St. Genevieve County [Missouri] on the Mississippi River. There was no settlement within 8 miles. He had been out some 4 or 5 years earlier to make some improvements, and might have secured 640 acres of land if he had attended to it, but the past 9 or 10 years he was not able to do anything and my mother had to provide for the family. In 1807, my father moved before he died to a large island called Liberty, 12 miles below Kaskaskia [Illinois]. He had some 20 acres and made plenty to live on, and had some cattle and hogs, when he took a notion to move to the place I now live. And the next year after he moved, he died and left his family in a log cabin where my mother died two years later without making much improvement except 2 or 3 acres it being very timbered with cottonwood and sycamore, and then my family broke up." 

 

John and Margaret Mansker left an estate of three hundred and twenty-eight dollars. They were buried together near the Mississippi River; on 10 February 1853, Samuel wrote:

 

              "In consequence of the river wearing, I have changed my burying to the hills or beside them on a high bench due north from the 'old place' near half a mile. Three of my children that was buried there I moved to the foot of the hill but the other coffins were so rotten I could not move them and put it off until time after time and so it remains."

 

Since the graves of John and Margaret Mansker don't seem to be in the Old Mansker Cemetery, Samuel most likely never quite got around to moving them.

        http://www.mansker.org/index.html?Samuel.html

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Subj:  Re: Bilderback Marriages in IL

Date:  12/14/00 5:29:37 PM Eastern Standard Time

From:    rcrain2@bellsouth.net (Randy Crain)

To:    Ruhi19@aol.com

 

A bit. Louise Mansker did marry Squire Crane and Elizabeth Mansker (her sister) married Joel Crain. The spelling is incorrect. They were sisters. Samuel was there brother (what a character he was, four wives, a mistress, and 23 children) Joel and Squire are the brothers of my direct descendent James Crane/Crain. The president of the Randolph County Historical Society is Virginia Mansker, the descendent of Louis and Elizabeth. I also had two later cousins that married Mansker children. The Crain, Bilderback, and Mansker families all lived in the same area, around the Mary's River in Randolph County.

 

The marriage certificate is next on the list. I have Cuthbert's estate papers. He died in 1842. Their was an Elizabeth Crain who bought many things. I believe that was his wife, but I also have guardianship papers of Jincy Crain and Sarah Crain dated 1849 to a Moses McCormach, who's wife was Elizabeth. In the 1850 census there was a James Bilderback, 27 in the household too. Wait????????? I wonder if Elizabeth McCormach is Cuthbert's Elizabeth remarried. The two girls we believe were Cuthbert's and Elizabeth's children.

 

I think I have some more Randolph County sites

----- Original Message -----

From: Ruhi19@aol.com

To: rcrain2@bellsouth.net

Cc: Bilderback-L@rootsweb.com

Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:46 AM

Subject: Re: Bilderback Marriages in IL

 

In a message dated 12/13/00 6:04:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rcrain2@bellsouth.net writes:

 

<<If you go to http://www.iltrails.org/Randolph/1830marryc.htm you will find

the marriage of Elizabeth and Cuthbert. He is also listed in the 1840

census of Randolph County. I found that in microfilm at my local library. >>

 

That website is pretty cool.  I found guardianship records for Jane Stewart

Bilderback and Francis Marion Bilderback, who, I think, is her brother, aka

Gabriel Marion Bilderback.  The guardian of Jane is her uncle, Harvey

Clendenin who married Getty Bilderback.  It is interesting that the guardian

of "Francis" is Samuel Mansker.  That's  a new name for me.  I see that

another Mansker (Louise) married a Crain (Squire) and that an Elizabeth

"Mansco" married another Crain, Joel.  Do you know anything of these?

 

Cynthia McDaniel

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T8 R5

 

John Hickman arrived here in 1805. His house was located a bit south of where Rookwood is now, the land is now under the Mississippi River. In 1809 John Manusker moved to the Island in the river. Samuel Manusker built the first house in Rockwood. James McCormick opened a store. Emsley Jones arrived in 1809. He killed a man named Reed and was hung at Kaskaskia. Alexander Barber had lived in Kaskaskia from 1805 to 1825 when he moved to this township. James Clendinen arrived in 1808 from KY with son John H. James moved to Chester in 1837. William Bilderback settled the area in 1814.

 

Rockwood was formerly known as Jones Creek and Liberty. It seems that the underground railroad may have gone through Rockwwod. May runaway blacks came to Jones Creek and called it Liberty. The Post Office was est under the name Jone's Creek in 1830, in 1865 citizens wanted to change the name to Liberty but there was a town by that name so they called it Rockwood in 1865. John Steans bought the land in 1832 and the town was laid out. In 1836 Capt W B Charles, James Dean, Dr Manning, Harvey Clendinen, Samuel Barber, Thomas Frazier and EG Hall bought lots in town. Mansker, Clendinen and Barber were in the grain shipping business. There was also a good wool market here. Silas Tuthill came to the village in 1842 to make chairs. In 1856 a flour mill was opened and the town was shipping more flour and good than any other in the county.. The first post office was est in 1836 under the name of Jones Creek, the name was changed to Rockwood about 1863 or so. The coopermine was lost to fire in 1863 but rebuilt it burnt again in 1920 but was not rebuilt. The first school was in 1835, it burnt in 1913 and a new one was built in its place and used until 1956. The United Presbyterian Church was organized in Rockwood.

 

Liberty Island was once a stop over place for runaway slaves from MO. Due to flooding no one lives on the island and since the river has changed course it is no longer and island.

        (http://www.iltrails.org/Randolph/t8r5.htm)

       

Children of JOHN MANSKER and MARGARET ROBINSON are:

                   i.    NANCY4 MANSKER, b. February 1793 (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").

                  ii.    ELIZABETH MANSKER, b. April 1794 (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic."); d. Aft. 1840; m. JOEL CRAIN, 22 September 1813, Randolph Co., IL (Source: Marriage Records for Randolph Co., IL, "Electronic."); b. Bet. 1783 - 1786 (Source: Me, Guess.); d. Abt. 14 July 1848, Randolph Co., IL (Source: Randy Crain, "Electronic.")..

4.              iii.    SAMUEL MANSKER, b. 16 December 1795, Beargrass Creek, KY; d. 4 January 1884, Randolph Co., IL.

5.              iv.    WILLIAM MANSKER, b. May 1798, Jefferson Co., KY; d. May 1848, Randolph Co., IL.

6.               v.    JAMES MANSKER, b. December 1799.

7.              vi.    LOUISA MANSKER, b. December 1801, Cape Girardeau Co., MO.

                vii.    JOHN MANSKER, b. February 1803 (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").

               viii.    ELVIS MANSKER, b. February 1805 (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").

 

3.  JAMES3 MANSKER (JOHN2, LUDWIG1) was born Abt. 1772 in Lancaster Co., PA (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic."), and died Abt. 1830.

       

Child of JAMES MANSKER is:

8.                i.    WILLIAM4 MANSKER, b. October 1795, Campbellstown, PA; d. Abt. 1850, TN.

 

 

Generation No. 3

 

4.  SAMUEL4 MANSKER (JOHN3, JOHN2, LUDWIG1) was born 16 December 1795 in Beargrass Creek, KY (Source: (1) 1850 Census, Randolph Co., IL., (2) Illinois Trails, "Electronic."), and died 4 January 1884 in Randolph Co., IL (Source: (1) Mansker Cemetery, "Electronic.", (2) Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").  He married (1) NANCY CRAWFORD (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic," surname.) 20 April 1816 in Randolph Co., IL (Source: (1) Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.", (2) Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, "Electronic."), daughter of ? CRAWFORD.  She was born 1 August 1802 in SC (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic."), and died 27 November 1844 in Randolph Co., IL (Source: Mansker Cemetery, "Electronic.").  He married (2) ELIZABETH BARTEL (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic," surname.) 11 June 1846 in Randolph Co., IL (Source: Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, "Electronic.").  She was born 9 March 1815 in OH (Source: (1) 1850 Census, Randolph Co., IL., (2) Mansker Cemetery, "Electronic."), and died 18 September 1853 in Randolph Co., IL (Source: (1) Mansker Cemetery, "Electronic.", (2) Marian Jacq, "Electronic.").  He married (3) ELIZABETH MASON 26 February 1854.  She was born Bef. 1834 (Source: Me, Guess.).  He married (4) NANCY NELSON 6 November 1856 (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").  She was born 21 July 1824 (Source: Mansker Cemetery, "Electronic."), and died 2 September 1902 in Randolph Co., IL (Source: Mansker Cemetery, "Electronic.").

 

5.  WILLIAM4 MANSKER (JOHN3, JOHN2, LUDWIG1) was born May 1798 in Jefferson Co., KY (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic."), and died May 1848 in Randolph Co., IL (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").  He married NANCY.  She was born 1810 (Source: Census, From:  Karen Halbert Moore.).

 

Notes for NANCY:

1850 Randolph Co., Il. census

 

In hh# 865:

John Moore  30  Randolph Co., Il.

Lavinia     22       "

Samuel       8       "

Uriah        6       "

Thomas S. or L. 2    "

Sydney B.  11/12     "

LYDIA BILDERBACK 20  "  (daughter of  James Bilderback and Mariah Clendinin)

Archibald Robinson  22  "     (cousin)

 

In hh#866

Samuel Mansker   55   Ky.

Elizabeth        35   Oh.

William W.       12   Il.

Robert B.        12   Il.

Thaddeous S.      8   Il.

Henry C.          8   Il.

Mahala            6   Il.

Margaret H.       2   Il.

John Moore       26   Il.

Elizabeth        20   Il.

 

hh#867

Nancy Mansker   40   ?       (widow of William Mansker d 1848)

Elias D.        17   Il.

William W.      13   Il.

Louisa           9   Il.

George Ward     20   Il.

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Children of WILLIAM MANSKER and NANCY are:

                   i.    ELVIS D.5 MANSKER, b. Abt. 1833 (Source: Census, 1850 Randolph Co., IL.).

                  ii.    WILLIAM W. MANSKER, b. March 1837 (Source: (1) Census, From:  Karen Halbert Moore., (2) Dennis Mansker, The Mansker Chronicles, "Electronic."); m. SARAH HENSON (Source: Dennis Mansker, The Mansker Chronicles, "Electronic.").

                 iii.    MARY LOUISA MANSKER, b. 1841 (Source: Census, 1850 Census, Randolph Co., IL.); m. JAMES HENSON, January 1856 (Source: Dennis Mansker, The Mansker Chronicles, "Electronic."); b. Abt. 1840 (Source: Me, Guess, age of wife.).

 

6.  JAMES4 MANSKER (JOHN3, JOHN2, LUDWIG1) was born December 1799 (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").

       

Child of JAMES MANSKER is:

                   i.    WILLIAM5 MANSKER.

 

7.  LOUISA4 MANSKER (JOHN3, JOHN2, LUDWIG1) was born December 1801 in Cape Girardeau Co., MO (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").  She married SQUIRE CRAIN 28 February 1818 in Randolph Co., IL (Source: Marriage Records for Randolph Co., IL, "Electronic."), son of JOHN CRAIN and SUSANNAH SCOTT.  He was born 1 September 1785 in Wilkes Co., GA (Source: Illinois Trails, "Electronic."), and died 14 November 1846 in Jackson Co., IL (Source: Illinois Trails, "Electronic," http://www.iltrails.org/Jackson/cemcrain.htm, Squire Crain died Nov. 14, 1846 aged 61 yrs 3 mo 13 ds.).

       

Child of LOUISA MANSKER and SQUIRE CRAIN is:

                   i.    NANCY5 CRAIN, b. 13 January 1833 (Source: Illinois Trails, "Electronic."); d. 11 December 1855, Jackson Co., IL (Source: Illinois Trails, "Electronic," Nancy Crain daughter of Squire & Louisa died Dec. 11, 1855 aged 22 yrs 11 mo 17 Ds.).

 

8.  WILLIAM4 MANSKER (JAMES3, JOHN2, LUDWIG1) was born October 1795 in Campbellstown, PA (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic."), and died Abt. 1850 in TN (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").  He married ARVILLA DUGGER August 1816 in Sumner Co., TN (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic."). 

 

Notes for WILLIAM MANSKER:

http://www.mansker.org/main.html

       

Children of WILLIAM MANSKER and ARVILLA DUGGER are:

                   i.    ANN5 MANSKER, b. 1830 (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").

                  ii.    JOHN F. MANSKER, b. 1833 (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").

                 iii.    DANIEL MANSKER, b. Abt. 1836 (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").

                 iv.    THOMAS MANSKER, b. Abt. 1839 (Source: Dennis Mansker, "Electronic.").

 

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