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Forum.Policy.Debate

Background: I told Onalee to post something to shake up the conservative membership of the forums. The post was deleted in less than two minutes. I decided to give Suneil a hard time about it. We got into an "argument." I was cracking up the whole time.

sHaDoWzERo359 (9:59:34 PM): don't be a pussy, let the girl have some fun
s81014628 (9:59:45 PM): no
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:00:00 PM): tell me you didn't delete that
s81014628 (10:00:08 PM): yes I did
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:00:13 PM): gah
s81014628 (10:00:32 PM): it's an idiotic form of fun by someone who thinks they are automatically justified on this topic
s81014628 (10:00:51 PM): i'm not going to deal with that, unless it is in the Intellectual Corner at the very least
s81014628 (10:02:01 PM): and when I move something, do not move it back
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:02:10 PM): intellectual nothing. lighten up, it's not like it's going to burn the eyes out of half of our conservative membership
s81014628 (10:02:32 PM): it's not about conservative membership, its about idiocy
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:03:33 PM): or just some random fun
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:03:44 PM): oh wait, guess we don't have a forum for that
s81014628 (10:05:02 PM): im not going to tolerate fun that is in the form of a topic which is blatant trolling with no justification
s81014628 (10:06:40 PM): if she finds the need to post this topic, she can talk to me as to why it is so important for the sake of 'fun'
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:08:33 PM): i feel like a college kid talking to an old man
s81014628 (10:08:49 PM): i dont care what you feel like, that's the way it is
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:09:14 PM): now you sound like my dad
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:09:39 PM): except he's a bit less anal retentive and doesn't delete members' first posts
s81014628 (10:10:13 PM): i wouldnt delete a member's first post if it was actually to introduce themselves and not do extreme trolling
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:11:07 PM): trolling? the hell is that? just slap a term on it and rant about how bad it is.. nice trick
s81014628 (10:12:11 PM): No, saying conservatives want to start a "pro homo" movement and insulting them in such manners with no provocation whatsoever is blatant trolling
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:13:15 PM): see, there's the crux. girls don't insult. they tease. *lighten up*
s81014628 (10:14:16 PM): it doesn't matter what their intentions are, it still incites flaming for no reason, and that is not necessary on these forums at all
s81014628 (10:14:23 PM): if she wants to do that, she can go to another forums
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:15:43 PM): haha, but that assumes the purpose of her post was to incite 'inflammatory' response, which may or may not be the case but we'll never know since you farted on it
s81014628 (10:16:17 PM): im not assuming anything, and I've said i dont care about the intentions
s81014628 (10:16:29 PM): regarding the post itself, it was in question and thus deleted
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:17:30 PM): so basically anything remotely interesting or not in line with every other boring post on the forum gets whacked
s81014628 (10:17:34 PM): and from what im hearing here it seems to be more about your intentions than hers, actually
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:18:40 PM): uh-oh, bust out the gossip. good one
s81014628 (10:18:58 PM): what is this then?
s81014628 (10:18:58 PM): AragornJunkie (10:14:36 PM): im very sorry. long told me to do it. hes very persuasive.
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:19:48 PM): self-redemption
s81014628 (10:19:58 PM): regardless, it's your choice to visit the forums, and if you find them boring by your standards and can only find anything 'interesting' in topics that cause unnecessary problems then no one is stopping you from not coming
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:21:18 PM): the forums are fine. but every now and then if something DIFFERENT comes along you don't have to squash it like a bug and reduce the poster to apologetic mush like that
s81014628 (10:21:38 PM): in this case, yes, I do
s81014628 (10:22:02 PM): for reasons already explained, as we're not going to have one person who doesn't even introduce themselves come and undermine the forums
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:22:19 PM): undermine? it was one post
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:22:44 PM): go validate tractorpuller if you know him
s81014628 (10:23:09 PM): magnitude does not matter; it's the priniciple that neither Kevin nor I would tolerate these kinds of posts
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:24:52 PM): nobody even got the chance to respond. it was just like "oh, this is different. and slightly contradictory. *delete*"
s81014628 (10:25:58 PM): being different is not the same as being majorly problematic
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:26:34 PM): that's just it. you prejudged it as a problem without letting anyone respond
s81014628 (10:26:52 PM): yes, that's what I do as the administratory
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:28:05 PM): discourage new members from posting and bash them into the forum-posters' mold?
s81014628 (10:28:17 PM): when they post topics like that, yes
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:28:37 PM): we're supposed to address the concerns of the members. when a member has a problem we decide whether or not it's significant enough to take action on
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:28:51 PM): this wasn't the case as nobody had the chance to say anything about it
s81014628 (10:31:11 PM): no, I'm supposed to set out certain rules and judgment where we moderate what is necessary
s81014628 (10:31:19 PM): despite what others think about it
s81014628 (10:31:36 PM): and if someone does have a problem with a post outside administrative judgment, then its looked into and decided upon
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:32:41 PM): that post was alive for less than five minutes. that was some quick looking and deciding
s81014628 (10:33:20 PM): five minutes is more than enough to spot a post in need of deletion
s81014628 (10:33:48 PM): people are paid to do it within mere seconds on commercial websites
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:35:57 PM): this isn't a commercial website. it's a group of people, and you did the equivalent of punching the new guy in the face because he had weird hair
s81014628 (10:36:14 PM): weird hair isnt flaming
s81014628 (10:37:10 PM): i did the equivalent of telling the new guy not to call others unnecessary names and make fun of them for it
s81014628 (10:37:21 PM): if he wants to actually post that is
s81014628 (10:38:06 PM): now if it was an old guy with some justification, provocation, or the post is worded with a specific intention, then it becomes a review situation
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:38:23 PM): you had no idea what the post actually meant
s81014628 (10:38:24 PM): but as for this, it was a definite delete in order to maintain principles
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:38:26 PM): and you didn't ask
s81014628 (10:38:32 PM): and it didnt matter
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:38:39 PM): is that the principle? delete and ask later
s81014628 (10:38:43 PM): no
s81014628 (10:38:45 PM): principle is just delete
s81014628 (10:38:58 PM): no need for asking
s81014628 (10:40:39 PM): the asking part doesnt matter, its the post itself, from a new, unidentified member, that was dealt with, not the poster
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:41:33 PM): there wasn't even a "what the hell is this"
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:41:37 PM): just utter suppression
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:42:16 PM): not asking reflects an apathy towards member concerns
s81014628 (10:42:21 PM): actually there was, then I read something about 'having fun' and it became obvious this was not needed
s81014628 (10:42:37 PM): i dont have very many concerns for a member that doesn't introduce herself
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:44:27 PM): oh yeah, darn that fun, there's no place for that on these forums
s81014628 (10:44:50 PM): yes, theres no place for that fun
s81014628 (10:45:50 PM): regardless of what it is, the topic premise was inflammatory and useful only to the topic creator, so the topic itself became invalid and deleted
s81014628 (10:46:11 PM): if you want to have fun in that respect, go somewhere else
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:47:23 PM): thanks for rephrasing what i just said and yes, we'll take our fun elsewhere

Session concluded at 10:47:30 PM

s81014628 (10:50:33 PM): I'm sure if any random new member joined and decided to post pornography on the site we should host a poll asking members if they have any problems with it
s81014628 (10:51:41 PM): Of course not, that's where the priniciple decided by administrative authority comes into the picture
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:51:48 PM): less than 20 words surely doesn't amount to pornography
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:51:59 PM): exercise some restraint with that power
s81014628 (10:52:28 PM): but some people want to have a little fun with pornography
s81014628 (10:52:37 PM): you wouldnt restrict them from doing that would you?
s81014628 (10:52:42 PM): unless someone voice a concern over it
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:55:10 PM): there's a difference between something that's obviously morally offensive and a girl just teasing a bunch of conservative guys (with words, of course)
s81014628 (10:55:49 PM): so essentially youre saying that you reserve the right to suppress others at your own will
s81014628 (10:56:19 PM): because something is 'obvious' to you and im assuming other things are 'not so obvious'
sHaDoWzERo359 (10:57:37 PM): you're comparing a little girl messing with you in a tiny post to outright pornography. nice
s81014628 (10:57:46 PM): no
s81014628 (10:57:54 PM): im comparing my right to delete posts to your right to delete posts
s81014628 (10:58:51 PM): from what youve said, you believe you have the right to impose your own beliefs on other posters
s81014628 (10:58:59 PM): and delete the posts you find wrong
s81014628 is away at 11:00:29 PM.
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:02:08 PM): i never delete
Auto response from s81014628 (11:02:11 PM): I am away from my computer right now.

sHaDoWzERo359 (11:02:15 PM): i'd probably move it to squamu

Session concluded at 11:02:38 PM

s81014628 (11:13:43 PM): thats still censorship nevertheless
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:16:03 PM): bumping versus deleting. different kinds and my way's better.
s81014628 (11:16:50 PM): regardless of where you do it, its still asserting your right to decide the fate of other member's posts without consulting them first
s81014628 (11:17:02 PM): unless you'd wait until another member would say something about it
s81014628 (11:17:10 PM): then thats an entirely different situation
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:19:19 PM): if it's porno, hell yeah i'd do it, there could be teachers bumping around
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:19:40 PM): but just words, and not very many at that.. i'd like to see how the membership responds rather than immediately silencing
s81014628 (11:20:10 PM): thats the point, youve just said that you can do what you want based on your own judgment regardless of what members think
s81014628 (11:20:19 PM): which is what I did
s81014628 (11:20:44 PM): on a similar level, someone could say "Damn all you Viets who were trying to start a pro-commie revolution," which is a political statement
s81014628 (11:21:20 PM): but i find that to be politically insensitive and incorrect, and id delete it if it was made by some new member
s81014628 (11:21:42 PM): just like id delete a politically insensitive and incorrect statement to say all conservatives are trying to start a pro-homophobic revolt
s81014628 (11:22:27 PM): there exist no mutual understandings on the poster's meaning, so when the post itself is taken into account, it required deletion by my standards
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:24:19 PM): by your standards. and what i'm saying is your standards suck. i wouldn't need to delete the topic because i know the membership would crack down hard on it anyway
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:24:34 PM): as to the *actual* post in question, i knew the poster so i know she was just teasing
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:24:49 PM): if you can't deal with it, that just means you've got weak constitution
s81014628 (11:24:52 PM): so the membership would delete the topic?
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:25:35 PM): the *membership* would not approve and voice their disapproval, and which point a discussion begins. and this brings attention to the forums, which is healthy every now and then
s81014628 (11:26:01 PM): so essentially you support possible extensive flaming
s81014628 (11:26:40 PM): any number of people can come on and make any number of remarks they want, thus leading to a prolonged flame war even worse than what we had before philip stopped posting
s81014628 (11:26:53 PM): by my standards, i dont want the forums to turn into that at all
s81014628 (11:27:06 PM): and so on principle any topic that fits the nature of what was posted awhile ago will be deleted
s81014628 (11:27:42 PM): if you think the standard of preventing pointless, unjustified trolling and flaming 'sucks,' then, yes, there is nothing I can do about that
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:28:47 PM): i support interesting, even controversial conversation to break up the humdrum once in a while
s81014628 (11:29:07 PM): you support much more than that
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:29:23 PM): phillip was a unique contributer to our forums and we need more people with sound beliefs and fast fingers like that
s81014628 (11:29:25 PM): you said you wouldnt delete these kinds of posts
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:29:55 PM): twisted my words. i said i wouldn't delete *that* post because i know the girl
s81014628 (11:29:58 PM): thus you support any sort of politically insensitive statement to be posted, and let the members 'voice disapproval' for each one
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:30:14 PM): thus, you're just pissing me off
s81014628 (11:30:20 PM): what the heck?
s81014628 (11:30:28 PM): so i wasnt justified in deleting a troll because i didnt know who was posting?
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:30:38 PM): yes.
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:30:48 PM) : once the "prolonged flame war" begins is where we have even more control
s81014628 (11:31:00 PM): now that is a standard that REALLY sucks
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:31:14 PM) : says you.
s81014628 (11:31:19 PM): whose in control?
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:32:05 PM): i was going to go off on how flame wars are a crucial and integral part of every successful forum, but you wouldn't understand
s81014628 (11:32:29 PM): i see
s81014628 (11:32:39 PM): so i guess any major, commercial forums just fail because they delete flaming
s81014628 (11:32:52 PM): whereas random, free hosting forums succeed because they are undermined by complete morons
s81014628 (11:34:25 PM): GameFAQs forums are horrible compared to angry bobs place because they dont tolerate trolls or flaming
s81014628 (11:35:09 PM): but I wouldn't understand why, so there's no more need of discussion on the topic
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:35:32 PM): major, commercial forums serve a different purpose than ours, and also tailor to a different audience
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:35:47 PM): what do people like to read about? what's all over the news?
s81014628 (11:36:15 PM): so what are the purpose of these forums?
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:36:24 PM): controversy! that's right! drama, violence, sex, scandal.. that's what's interesting, *particularly* to the teen audience like the vast majority of the forums
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:36:56 PM): why do people complain how "nothing's going on in these forums" and "this is getting boring, i'm leaving"?
s81014628 (11:37:06 PM): ive never seen anyone complain about that
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:37:22 PM): because you go and squelch out everything that's even the least bit interesting! you probably ignore member comments like that too
s81014628 (11:37:36 PM): i squelch out everything?
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:37:43 PM): GameFaqs allows rampant flaming. i'm talking about moderated flame wars
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:37:49 PM): like a controlled fire, of sorts
s81014628 (11:38:00 PM): ive deleted one topic and several of philips insensitive comments
s81014628 (11:38:13 PM): and now ive become this super nazi that wants everyone to live a quaker lifestyle
s81014628 (11:38:45 PM): because the only things that are interesting in life are politically insensitive comments
s81014628 (11:39:12 PM): because birthdays, games, movies, clubs, colleges, RPGs, etc, are all so boring
s81014628 (11:39:31 PM): no one is ever into those, they are only into being horny and violent, because those are the only interesting things in life
s81014628 (11:40:04 PM): but, as usual, I wouldn't understand why
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:43:20 PM): as usual, you've blown things out of proportion
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:43:32 PM): as usual, the forums *always* have those topics available
s81014628 (11:43:42 PM): 'least bit interesting' implies that everything else is not interesting
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:43:42 PM): the purpose is to introduce something *new* and *interesting* into the mix
s81014628 (11:44:44 PM): saying that the only things people are interested in are 'drama, violence, sex, and scandal' is also implying that everything else I listed isnt interesting
s81014628 (11:44:59 PM): i dont see how those things arent in proportion with what youve said
s81014628 (11:45:32 PM): if you want to introduce something new, find a way to not make it politicall insensitive
s81014628 (11:45:47 PM): just because you are not content with the forums does not mean you incite flaming for your own pleasure
s81014628 (11:45:58 PM): just like how you dont randomly change the formatting of the entire damn site because you wanted to
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:46:02 PM): the inclusion of 'only' flagrantly twists my words around. (if i didn't talk to girls so much i wouldn't know how to respond, haha)
s81014628 (11:46:18 PM): actually it was 'only'
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:46:21 PM): people tend to be interested in drama and controversy. do you disagree?
s81014628 (11:46:33 PM): people like to read about sex, scandal, drama, and violence because that IS what IS interesting
s81014628 (11:46:50 PM): why dont people like to read about the other things?
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:46:55 PM): don't squelch because you're a political pussy :-P
s81014628 (11:47:04 PM): political pussy?
s81014628 (11:47:09 PM): what does that even mean?
s81014628 (11:47:32 PM): oh yeah, interesting is underlined too
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:47:54 PM): they do like the normal things. it's always there for them. what they like even *more*, and what they *seek* and *pay money* to read about.. is controversy
s81014628 (11:48:23 PM): so we're assuming here that the members of the forums want to flame each other?
s81014628 (11:48:29 PM): no, we arent
s81014628 (11:48:43 PM): youre assuming that, because you want, for your own personal enjoyment, for that to be so
s81014628 (11:48:53 PM): once again, thats you imposing your beliefs on others for your own purposes
s81014628 (11:49:35 PM): and what the hell is a political pussy seriously?
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:52:27 PM): you call it imposing beliefs, i call it living in my reality.
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:52:44 PM): it's not really a politcal pussy. you're a political pussy with a really big gun
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:52:55 PM): you fire at things that scare you. bam!
s81014628 (11:52:59 PM): scare me?
s81014628 (11:53:05 PM): homosexual rights scare me?
s81014628 (11:53:12 PM): i thought you knew my position on such matters
s81014628 (11:53:23 PM): but does that mean I dont delete it?
s81014628 (11:53:24 PM): no
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:54:53 PM): maybe you're afraid of drama, masking it behind "principles" and "administrative beliefs"
s81014628 (11:55:05 PM): maybe you're just wrong
s81014628 (11:56:04 PM): maybe if you werent afraid of drama you wouldnt take the same old 'fence sitter' stance on every political issue except one
s81014628 (11:56:28 PM): regardless, that isnt the point
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:56:29 PM): eh, that was last year
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:56:47 PM): i'm labeling myself as a moderate while i think of a name for my new and self-righteous ideology
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:56:56 PM): i just never liked conforming to the beliefs of others.
sHaDoWzERo359 (11:57:02 PM): good place to start though
s81014628 (11:57:15 PM): theres never any conforming to 'others'
s81014628 (11:57:26 PM): every person is an individual that makes their own choice as rational creatures
s81014628 (11:58:15 PM): anyway, your reality that certain things should be managed this way is just a personal belief then
s81014628 (11:58:28 PM): and you want that personal belief to overrule the standards
s81014628 (11:58:37 PM): which is unacceptable
s81014628 (11:58:57 PM): and if you think that sucks, so be it, because then a whole lot of other places suck then bceause of the same priniciple
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:02:17 AM): we're admins. our personal beliefs *are* the standard.

Session concluded at 12:05:35 AM

s81014628 (12:09:40 AM) : not without some justification
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:10:15 AM): wat
s81014628 (12:10:17 AM): and saying that you are personally pleased by 'controlled' flaming does not really qualify as a justification as much as it does a personal desire
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:10:20 AM): i closed the window ten minutes ago
s81014628 (12:11:05 AM): its using emotion rather than rationality
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:11:08 AM): my personal desire *is* the justification. it's the same justification as your personal desire to squelch my teasing friend. except you call it 'principle'
s81014628 (12:11:52 AM): it was my desire because i found it to be an offensive remark that would promote unnecessary and insensitive insults on both sides
s81014628 (12:11:58 AM): theres a reason to control attacks
s81014628 (12:12:08 AM): i havent seen any real reason as to why we should promote them
s81014628 (12:12:30 AM): the benefits ive seen from keeping the forums calm outweighs it when people are flaming
s81014628 (12:12:40 AM): and ive seen no want from any other member for such a forums
s81014628 (12:13:28 AM): therefore, I can rationally justify the fact that I would want to delete a post that does not comply with the aformentioned criteria in order to promote a better forum for the rest of the members
s81014628 (12:14:00 AM): just as I would justify the fact that I wouldnt go randomly changing the display of the forums because its better for the rest of the members, particularly those that dont have perfect eyesight
s81014628 (12:14:23 AM): on the other hand, you did and would do these kinds of things solely for your own benefit when an entire forum is at hand here
s81014628 (12:14:29 AM): because of emotional reasons
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:14:42 AM): i just skimmed that and it sounds like an english essay. call me when you're done
s81014628 (12:15:32 AM): oh, i was just trying not to avoid contrversey
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:18:05 AM): k. so you: "controversy sucks" me: "controversy good sometimes"
s81014628 (12:18:16 AM): no
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:18:21 AM): now that that's settled..
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:18:27 AM): ...or we could keep goign
s81014628 (12:18:28 AM): if controversy sucks then we wouldnt have polisophy
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:18:47 AM): well if it doesn't suck then don't avoid it
s81014628 (12:19:03 AM): the topic wasnt even about controversy
s81014628 (12:19:09 AM): it was about insulting others
s81014628 (12:19:14 AM): the topics creator might have had different intentions
s81014628 (12:19:32 AM): but the topic itself, sitting there on general discussions, was an insult, not any sort of valid, justified debatable point
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:22:07 AM): sarcasm's debatable
s81014628 (12:22:33 AM): there was no indication it was sarcasm
s81014628 (12:22:42 AM): people know very few things about the creator
s81014628 (12:23:06 AM): probably the most pertinent one would be an avatar proclaiming the majority of the country to be "Jesusland"
s81014628 (12:23:32 AM): when someone looks at this, and then looks at the topic, rationally a person would find that the poster would probably be serious about this point
s81014628 (12:24:03 AM): and even if it didnt exist, there still wasnt any indication of sarcasm, because we did not know who this person was at all
s81014628 (12:24:17 AM): so in order to prevent any provoked retalliation, it was justified to delete it
s81014628 (12:24:50 AM): ive never seen any sort of 'healthy' controversy stem from instances such as this
s81014628 (12:25:37 AM): there are two specific areas for supposed controversy to take place, and there are general, mutually assured guidelines that such controversy would not degrade to such remarks, or otherewise face moderation
s81014628 (12:25:58 AM): in order to maintain the good of the forum that is
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:28:41 AM): wat, i didn't read all of that, but did you really think some girl would go through all the trouble of filling out all the profile forms, getting an avatar.. just to thoroughly piss off the membership (or in this case, just one admin)?
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:29:16 AM): or would it rather, "rationally" make more sense that she was just teasing, having fun because she's used to talking to guys like me?
s81014628 (12:30:58 AM): actually it rationally made sense that no one except one person would know where this girl was coming from, because she never introduced herself and decided to make an insulting statement for various reasons unknown to the readers
s81014628 (12:31:48 AM): and either situation you presented is just as likely
s81014628 (12:32:10 AM): there are several people who go through the trouble of registering and such only to never post
s81014628 (12:32:15 AM): such as what this girl did for several days
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:32:28 AM): she's never used a forum before
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:32:34 AM): dude. you're kidding me, right?
s81014628 (12:32:38 AM): and im supposed to know that?
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:32:42 AM): her interests say "breasts, getting laid, homosexual rights, finding new ways to suck...at life, panties, victoria secrets, maxim"
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:32:51 AM): you KNOW she's not being serious
s81014628 (12:33:10 AM): really?
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:33:27 AM): and you can "apply this reasoning" to the language of her post, rather than construing it to your beliefs
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:33:36 AM): or prejudices, i should call them

Session concluded at 12:33:39 AM

s81014628 (12:33:44 AM): prejudices?
s81014628 (12:33:54 AM): im interested in preserving the forums to be a flame-free environment
s81014628 (12:34:11 AM): youre interested in doing whatever you want to make yourself happy at the expense of the forums
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:35:03 AM): yeah, pretty much.
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:35:12 AM): flame-free = watered-down = boooring
s81014628 (12:35:24 AM): like I said, thats what makes you happy
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:35:28 AM): think of the world without soap operas, politics, or Family Guy
s81014628 (12:35:29 AM): therefore the boring aspects are your own 'reality'
s81014628 (12:35:53 AM): and so you wanted to introduce this new thing for your own pleasure
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:35:54 AM): the boring aspects are a little gray area in my reality and the entirety of yours
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:36:13 AM): i do what makes me happy. so sue me
s81014628 (12:36:20 AM): no i cant sue you over that
s81014628 (12:36:31 AM): but as the root admin of the forums i do reserve the right to delete a post
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:36:44 AM): you're acting like it's a crime, or some kind of moral offense to do things that are pleasurable
s81014628 (12:37:15 AM): im acting like its an offense to do it for your own pleasure when it has consequential ramifications that were neglected to be taken into account
s81014628 (12:38:01 AM): that are supposedly nonexistent because, once again, its based on your own personal wants rather than a rational guidline to maintain the general atmosphere as much as possible
s81014628 (12:39:06 AM): the atmosphere if boring to your personally, but I'm not going to change it over one person
s81014628 (12:39:27 AM): or rather, two people, taking into account some completely random person whose only posted once
s81014628 (12:40:18 AM): especially when there are other areas available for these kinds of uses
s81014628 (12:41:27 AM): so, in conclusion, what I have found to work generally for the forums will be the status quo, and not be altered because of what you find to not be fun
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:42:00 AM): you put yourself above others because you have what you'd like to call a "rational guideline" which is really just a series of glorified personal needs anyway
s81014628 (12:42:02 AM): i havent seen the forums gain anything from such controversial statements at all, and so I will delete the same thing in the future
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:42:08 AM): so, in conclusion, i win.
s81014628 (12:42:32 AM): you havent demonstrated how these are supposedly personal needs, so really we cant take that as a fact
s81014628 (12:43:32 AM): and really, if i had any personal needs i wanted to satisfy then I wouldnt be administrating the forums
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:43:48 AM): you haven't demonstrated anything but your ability to rant in long-winded mini-speeches
s81014628 (12:44:05 AM): actually ive discussed several things
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:44:09 AM): or how rational guidelines are superior and not the equivalent to personal beliefs when applied to the forum environment
s81014628 (12:44:20 AM): the first is that i have not seen anyone complain about the current state of the forums other than you
s81014628 (12:44:33 AM): the way it is going now, the members are relatively content
s81014628 (12:44:55 AM): the second is that you wanted to change the forums from the content status because you felt that you wanted to satisfy yourself at the expense of others
s81014628 (12:45:14 AM): and since the forums are a community environment, I found that to be incorrect
s81014628 (12:45:52 AM): so I fixed a potential problem before it might have become an issue to maintain #1
s81014628 is away at 12:46:08 AM.
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:50:23 AM): with the amount of power we have, it doesn't matter how big the fire gets
Auto response from s81014628 (12:50:24 AM): I am away from my computer right now.

sHaDoWzERo359 (12:50:27 AM): we can put it down at any time
sHaDoWzERo359 (12:50:53 AM): so i let it burn for a little bit. see what happens. new things are fun and interesting

Session concluded at 12:53:07 AM